From the beginning, Netflix's GLOW has turned "catfighting" stereotypes on their heads, particularly when it comes to Debbie and Ruth. Guess that's a human trait though. I have people now — people who come with me to the ER, people who care if I’m hurt.”. I feel like her arc was one of the most rewarding to watch, and she developed and learned from her mistakes. The connections these women make inform the show they build, affect their self esteem, build them up, and tear them down. Marc Maron plays the role of Sam Sylvia, a washed-up director of "B" movies who tries to lead the group of women to fame. More than just ending on a cliffhanger, losing the series means losing a show that understood that women need to be seen as friends and confidants, flaws and all. No hate towards the actresses or anyone’s opinions I just wanted to take a poll based on a post from the other day. Debbie from all this comes out as being the star of the show, a producer and hustles like no one else to keep the show going. Get all the best moments in pop culture & entertainment delivered to your inbox. And it's a feminist show! While it often still favored white characters, the thrust of GLOW was clear: friction sparks, and is talked through. Wilder finds an unexpected chance at stardom: enter the glitter and spandex-laden world of women's wrestling, where she must work alongside 12 other Hollywood misfits. The writers of GLOW never really stake a claim about whether one is more right than the other. In these stories, friendship is more than just a bond, it’s a fluid relationship, full of ups and downs and all the developments in between. I don’t get the physical or any reason why people are drawn to Alison Brie, although I do like Ruth bc she’s an underdog and doesn’t know how to win or to change her life. They want things, and then they go for them. Tamme freaks and Debbie sees that she went too far with the "get a job" chant, but never apologizes or even addresses it. Canceling GLOW means canceling the rare show that believed in female friendship, unceremoniously canceled earlier this week. All while Ruth becomes the little theater kid with a ad-libbed idea every once in a while. The title sequence and glitzy premise put combat in the spotlight, but GLOW, unceremoniously canceled earlier this week after a previous renewal, was more than the banging 1980s soundtrack or the loud outfits. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Take this quiz with friends in real time and compare results. They’re at very different places in their lives, and their inability to connect debilitates their friendship. "Light of a Clear Blue Morning" by Dolly Parton, "Things don't just happen. Yet, Debbie still won’t offer the information up. And yet, in the sixth episode, “Outward Bound,” GLOW shows how Debbie, Ruth, and the entire gang’s relationships have evolved. Instead, GLOW lets their complicated friendship eke out what it can, leaving moments for quiet character growth between the two wrestlers fumbling their way to some sort of working out of their grievances. Please also read our Privacy Notice and Terms of Use, which became effective December 20, 2019. She chose to come back to the show. Today, with more women behind the scenes in creator and writer roles, grappling with the intricacies of female relationships has become more vital to TV shows that show the full heft of female friendships. Discover unique things to do, places to eat, and sights to see in the best destinations around the world with Bring Me! Search, watch, and cook every single Tasty recipe and video ever - all in one place! The Netflix series evolved TV in an essential way. Even as they discuss being able to complete a routine, Debbie is annoyed that Ruth won’t ask why it didn’t work the first time. ", "Sometimes you have to trick yourself into having a good time.". At the end of the day — and certainly at the end of these pandemic days — having people who care is all any of us can really hope for. “We’re not there,” she tersely spits out. For EPA rep, Ruth. Debbie “has it all” and wants to help by combing through Ruth’s unhappiness; Ruth’s insecurity turns to resentment so deep-seated that she can’t even explain why she sabotages the relationship. Self care and ideas to help you live a healthier, happier life. Debbie. Early on, these characters, many of them women of color, veer toward the pitfalls of television storytelling, where camaraderie oozes out as a byproduct of closeness, and glosses over any real difficulty. Too often, female friendships get the short shrift in the media; either they’re portrayed as toxic, leading the women to cut bait, or they’re nothing but wholesome, save for a single fight to be solved with a spackle of understanding. Shows like Insecure, Broad City, and Grace and Frankie show, not just how fulfilling a life between two women can be, but what happens when turmoil throws that connection out of sync and affects the ability to connect. Debbie get so many unexplored stories it finishes any proper growth or development for her character. For a TV show hoping to say something deeper about female relationships, it’s a true flex. The intro to GLOW — for those who resist the “Skip Intro” button — treats viewers to a group of neon-clad wrestlers gearing up for battle, all to the tune of Patty Smyth’s “The Warrior.” As they slip on their hairspray-fortified, shiny stretch armor, they smash, cheer, and fight, every blow rippling across the screen. No matter how lovely the friendships within these shows are, their comedy rarely had the bandwidth for the full range of female friendship, let alone verbiage for the long road to resolution after a blow-out fight. She's the one who worked really hard for the Glow project and didn't break the leg of someone else. PTA Chair? Everyone Is Either A Debbie Or Ruth From "Glow" — Who Are You? Debbie or Ruth what? Their jobs mean neither is in the position to simply give up on the friendship because it’s hard, even with just cause but neither particularly wants to. As Ruth points out, Debbie could’ve walked away after slapping her. But there was always room for negotiation, for growth, for love in the friendships of GLOW. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. These relationships may be professional or deeply personal. Over three seasons, the drama spiraled out from just the white women at its center. By choosing I Accept, you consent to our use of cookies and other tracking technologies. It’s a reflection women deserve to see more often, and without GLOW the already sparse landscape feels that much more empty. My vote goes to Debbie; as a fellow woman-in-a-man’s-world, I have a lot of respect for her hustle. Debbie from all this comes out as being the star of the show, a producer and hustles like no one else to keep the show going. Looks-wise, Debbie. Either way, you win. Debbie has found a friend in fellow-working mom, Tammé; Ruth and Sheila have always had a soft acceptance that makes them both feel safe; Yolanda tells Arthie that friendships with straight people will mean dealing with internalized homophobia; Melrose and Jenny understand each other’s history with violence in a way that makes resolution possible; Carmen and Rhonda tentatively talk boys. Betty Gilpin in the other hand is mind-blowing my intelligent in podcasts, and is so insightful. Shows like Parks and Recreation, Friends, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and New Girl all paint friendship between women as easy compatibility, rarely challenged by life events. Once Debbie also joins GLOW, the two are forced to find a way to work together; Debbie takes on the role of the All-American hero, Liberty Belle, and Ruth becomes her heel, Zoya the Destroyer. She joins the Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling after finding out that her husband, Mark, had an affair with her best friend, Ruth Wilder. I love Ruth. Yeah, but she's just replicating and condoning the same shitty dynamics that hurt her when she didn't have power. The wrestlers’ connection is thorny, but compelling, and each shift is rooted deeply in their characters and choices. Debbie Eagan is a new mother and former soap star. Because Ruth slept with her husband multiple times, low-key hate Debbie because she is pretty and successful compared to her. Personality-wise, Ruth. By Emma Baty. Reporting on what you care about. I think I sympathise more with Ruth, because she is portraying the underdog and that is why I voted for her, but TBH these two woman come as two. Debbie's finishing move is a Diving Crossbody, she also frequently uses a Corner Foot Choke. Tbh I don’t think she’s very versatile as an actress. They would legit destroy each other if they dated. locker room talk if not an apology. Everyone commits to forging friendships anyway. So.... basically, I thought the casting ruled them off and I could just enjoy the dynamic. California residents can opt out of "sales" of personal data. It's like there was a conversation cut out of the episode because there's never any strain in their relationship afterwards. What? To learn more or opt-out, read our Cookie Policy. People make choices. All while Ruth becomes the little theater kid with a ad-libbed idea every once in a while. >Alison Brie stars as Ruth Wilder, an out-of-work actress living in Los Angeles in the '80s. We hold major institutions accountable and expose wrongdoing. Essentially a workplace dramedy with metallic spandex, Liz Flahive and Carly Mensch’s series allowed the time and space to seriously consider the relationships of women; those they pursue and nurture, and those they unearth in the most unlikely places. Over time their cold war begins to thaw, but their emotional intimacy is never completely unguarded. Even just Tamme talking to her son afterwards looks too resolved for there not to have been a "Are you okay?" GLOW was part of a crop of shows that saw friendship as just as vital to women as love interests (if not moreso). GLOW was a show that anchored itself in this space, complicating the notion of both personal and professional friendship. Alison Brie has had an easy time getting into the business as opposed to Betty’s intense struggles, so it’s odd that she plays Ruth. Tbh I think another actress could play Ruth better sometimes. Best actress? Great question. But it’s that understanding that makes GLOW feel so refreshing: In a culture that so often talks down to or diminishes the role of friendship in women’s lives, Flahive and Mensch acknowledge their power over us, for better or worse. I always get the feeling chunks of Debbie's story are cut. Debbie. Not to say Debbie isn't a character with layers and personal struggle, but man, a lot of her development is based on her being selfish and dealing with the fallout and not learning from it.
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